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# When a $789m film franchise turns risky

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Published:  September 22, 2023

Updated:  October 04, 2023

You wouldn’t expect an action franchise fronted by Sylvester Stallone — one that has also tapped Arnold Schwarzenegger, Bruce Willis, Chuck Norris, Mel Gibson, Harrison Ford, Jean-Claude Van Damme, Wesley Snipes, and Jason Statham — to be anything but money in the bank.

![The Expendables franchise budget vs gross box office sales by movie](https://thdaily.s3.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/final_size-Expandables_20230921215625.png)

But this weekend, Lionsgate will be sweating out the returns of *Expend4bles*, hoping it won’t become a Hollywood cautionary tale.

#### **Wait, there’s another *****Expendables***** movie?**

With the high-wattage cast — including Stallone, Statham, Andy Garcia, and Megan Fox — not actively promoting the film due to the ongoing actors’ strike, you may not have even realized the franchise has returned after nine years away.

- The biggest pop in its marketing push came from cast member 50 Cent’s [since-deleted](https://www.insider.com/50-cent-slams-expendables-4-poster-2023-8) “WTF did we run out of money?” Instagram post, trashing the movie’s promo materials.

That’s a rough start for a movie already facing an uphill climb: The studio reportedly spent heavily on it, despite the third film making $100m+ less than the second.

#### **The summer has been flashing warning signs**

With *Expend4bles* leaning heavily on stunts performed by a 77-year-old Stallone, it couldn’t have been comforting to see moviegoers unenthused by 81-year-old Ford leading the action in the latest *Indiana Jones*, a film that [struggled](https://variety.com/2023/film/news/indiana-jones-5-mission-impossible-7-box-office-flops-explained-1235690262/) to make a profit.

Other action franchises’ receipts have been underwhelming. In a business where the [rule of thumb](https://gizmodo.com/how-much-money-does-a-movie-need-to-make-to-be-profitab-5747305) says you need to more than double your production budget to make a profit:

- *Fast X* made [$714.5m](https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Fast-X-(2023)#tab=summary) on a ~$340m budget.
- This summer’s *Mission: Impossible* installment made [$566m](https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Mission-Impossible-Dead-Reckoning-Part-One-(2023)#tab=summary) on a $290m budget.

With its rumored [$100m-$200m](https://screenrant.com/expendables-4-budget-box-office-prediction/#:~:text=The%20Expendables%204%27s%20Budget%20Is%20Reportedly%20%24100%20Million&text=In%20two%20separate%20interviews%2C%20Lundgren,I%20think%20around%20%24100%20million.%22) budget, *Expend4bles* has its work cut out to show that the franchise isn’t out of gas.

**BTW:** Looking for a positive? Consider the greatest movie of all time, *John Wick 4*, which got the ratios right, costing ~$100m and pocketing [$432m+](https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/John-Wick-Chapter-4-(2023)#tab=summary).

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